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welcome back convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on Saturday in connection with what law enforcement officials said is federal sex trafficking allegations according to three law enforcement officials the arrest which was part of a joint NYPD and FBI investigation stems from incidents spanning from the years 2002 to 2005 officials said the 66 year old Epstein had flown from Paris to New York when he was arrested in Teterboro New Jersey a source familiar with the investigation says the Epstein case was led by the Southern District of New York's public corruption unit working with the Sex Crimes Division the NYPD the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York and the FBI declined to comment Epstein is expected to appear before a federal magistrate judge in New York today to face charges that include sex trafficking of minors for which there is no federal statute of limitations separately a federal judge ruled in February that prosecutors led now by Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta violated the rights of Epstein's alleged victims after two of them sued the government for not telling them about a non-prosecution deal until it had been finalized in 2008 I've seen dodged major jail time after pleading guilty to state charges of soliciting and procuring a person under 18 for prostitution in an agreement with federal authorities he served a 13 month jail sentence but listened to this was allowed to spend much of it at his office through a work-release program under those federal charges Epstein could have faced life in prison the deal ended the FBI's investigation into numerous accusations against Epstein and granted immunity from the more serious federal charges but according to the New York Times February's ruling opened the possibility of nullifying the agreement an allowing Epstein to be prosecuted on the original federal charges at the same time the Justice Department opened its own investigation into the plea deal and whether its attorneys committed professional misconduct in the resolving the case of 2008 yes they did Jonathan Lemire what tell me exactly what happened what do you know about the Southern District of New York moving on an old friend of Donald Trump and Justice Department allowing an investigation to move forward that obviously is going to cause discomfort not only to Donald Trump but also possibly to Bill Clinton and others who have been Jeffrey Epstein's friend for some time Donald Trump calling Epstein in a past interview a terrific guy who liked young girls any any reporting on that how it moved forward was Donald Trump aware that it was moving forward and did he give the go-ahead well our our next guest certainly is the definitive expert on this issue but certainly I could speak to the White House's perspective on this president Trump yesterday had spent the weekend at his Golf Club in New Jersey he was asked about it as he was boarding Air Force One to come back to Washington whether he knew about the arrest he claimed he didn't which seems sort of dubious considering how he weighed in on cable news coverage all weekend long and certainly the epstein matter was covered extensively on all the networks so I think the we want reporting we know that he certainly was was briefed that what was happening you were right he has ties deep long-standing ties to Epstein he's quoted at I believe a 2002 New York Magazine profile about Epstein saying he was a great guy and even went on to say perhaps in a jocular way that he did have seen enjoyed young women which of course is it carries a very different meaning now perhaps you know we also know that the Epstein knew President Clinton and the flight records show that Clinton traveled on Epstein's plane more than a dozen times over the years there is extensive concern around the White House's where this could go the president of course is telling people near him that he doesn't know much about this it's unclear how personally involved he was with the with the decision to make this arrest yesterday or over the weekend in New Jersey it's something that people are watching nervously here this is so this has been a shadow that's followed Donald Trump and Bill Clinton it sort of hovered around the 2016 campaign reporters were sort of digging around the edges of it as that was going on and I think there is concern about what could happen next well joining us now is the investigative reporter who has been covering the Epstein case for the Miami Herald whole time Julie brown great to have you back on the show Julie give us a sense of what the charges are against him now now that the the I guess the runway has been cleared to to charge him again and is what more is expected or are you looking at given the fact that you have great knowledge of all the different tentacles surrounding this case well I think what we want to look at is whether what kind of evidence that they have especially what kind of new evidence that they have it's probably likely that they have some kind of new evidence out of New York because the charges that are out of Florida the Justice Department has already ruled that they're not going to reprosecution on those charges so they probably have some new information among the the new evidence could be witnesses or people that worked with him who now want to talk to authorities you know a lot of time has gone by some of these people might be thinking differently about their role in this operation that he was running so we'll have to wait and see what kind of witnesses were possibly employees they worked for him might be providing to authorities Julie one of the reasons the Jeffrey Epstein is going to be in federal court here in lower Manhattan today is the work that you and the Miami Herald did over a long period of time and the initial charges lodged against him in Florida he was speaking just now of witnesses there were more than 80 I think 8-0 80 young women who you spoke to in your initial reporting it's a shocking number talk about the degree of difficulty in getting these many of them quite young to participate in unveiling revealing the depth of this depravity well that was probably the hardest part I mean these young went that use women now had felt betrayed not only by you know traumatized by Epstein by his lawyers by the private investigators that stalk them but there were prosecutors that they believed would put him behind bars really give him the sentence that he deserved and they feel that in some to some degree they betrayed them so they certainly were not ready to start talking to me or anybody and keep in mind since this was so long ago a lot of them have moved on with their lives they have married they have children and some of them never told their families that this ever happened so that was a big challenge I think that in time also though they because some of them have children especially if they had girls they felt I know Virginia for example the Virginia Roberts felt that a duty at some point to speak out because she didn't want this to happen to other girls okay so truly let me ask you about some of the big names that you and others have said might be revealed during this investigation obviously you wrote a story talking about Alan Dershowitz and his battle with David Boies he continues to be accused and it's very interesting he he he said hey I'll go ahead to file a defamation suit against me for calling you a liar and and then had it now he's trying to get that dropped but it's very interesting you not only have Alan Dershowitz in the middle of this that and the charges obviously Bill Clinton's name keeps coming up because the number of times that he flew with Epstein Donald Trump involved in this or the there any other names political or otherwise that you know of that we'll be hearing about there probably will be you know he had he contributed to a number of political campaigns some of those people returned the money there were a lot of Harvard professors scientists academics that were in his circle but because they flew on his plane quite frankly or moved in his social circles doesn't that certainly mean that they were involved in anything illegal so I think that we have to wait and see how deep this goes as far as the sex trafficking operation goes but there are certainly many people right now who are probably a little nervous that he's never asked so so so let me ask you those flight manifests are do they not only reveal the passengers but they reveal any of those high-profile named people actually going to his Island yes of course I mean they're we know that Bill Clinton was going to you know on his plane we know that there were Bill Clinton was going to his plane to the island you know I don't guess we know he was on the island if he wasn't on the island directly from his from Epstein's plane there were other ways to get to the island you know if there's furry sea island there's other ways to go there and we know that some of these people got there by other means not just by mr. Epstein's plane it's it's incredible so many victims and it took so long for this man to be held to justice and I just I really am so impressed by the tenacity or tenacity pursuing justice for these victims I'm also disgusted that a sitting member of the Trump cabinet was complicit in this what should happen with secretary Acosta's and Congress hold him to account for his role striking this incredible sweetheart deal that kept a predator out of prison and instead allowed him to leave for 12 hours of the day over a year-long period instead of actually facing repercussions well Congress as you know has asked the Justice Department to look at this case but from what I understand the Office of Professional Responsibility that is overseeing this has no jurisdiction over a cost of casino longer works for the Justice Department so it remains to be seen whether they're going to do anything about about his role in this but what I will say is in all the explanations that I've heard from mr. Costa and from some of his assistant prosecutors who handled this they have never explained why they kept this deal secret if it was such a good deal like they say this was fair this was you know the best we could do given that these were young girls they didn't want to be intimidated any longer they were afraid to talk if it was such a good deal then why did they seal it why did they fight these victims for almost a year to make sure that nobody found out about it it was such a good deal yeah a lot those are the key questions I mean it looks like a massive cover-up obviously and those are the questions we hope get answered as well I wonder what else Julie happens on that island like what other activities are there these guys who are going there I mean you can't implicate them because they were on a plane but gosh it sure doesn't look good no and you know Virginia Roberts one of the victims who's been the most vocal she has described really that there were there was a lot of sexual activities there was really horrific things that happened on that island according to her and she's been quite frankly that's another issue with these victims she has been really beat up mr. Dershowitz is among those who beats her up on a regular basis so when you have when you're beat up like that you stop I mean she hasn't named any names because she's afraid so we'll have to wait and see what happens Julie brown thank you very much we really appreciate your reporting we'll have much more on this story in our next hour and please come back anytime coming up this hour President Trump is warning that Iran better be careful as Tehran vows to boost its uranium enrichment into science of the 2015 nuclear accord will talk to senator and member of the Foreign Relations Committee Chris Coons about that and Richard Haass will also join the conversation morning Joe is back in a moment thanks for checking out MSNBC on YouTube and make sure you subscribe to stay up-to-date on the day's biggest stories and you can click on any of the videos around us to watch more four Morning Joe and MSNBC thanks so much for watching

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  1. You are forgetting that Epstein was banned from the golf club at mar a lago ten years ago for molesting the 14 year old daughter of an employee who was working as a coat check girl. If you are going to report on something report the whole story and not just a part of it. This is very partisan and one sided. Bill Clinton has so much more to do with Epstein than Trump did.

  2. Dear FBI. The secret service will have records regarding Bill Clintons whereabouts on file. Your welcome Dean

  3. Turning out minors for prostitution doesn't hold a life sentence? Minors can't give consent so they can't be prostitutes. They are victimized, children.

  4. The parents of these underage girls should also be held criminally responsible for what happened to them. What parent would not be alarmed if their young daughter suddenly had hundreds of dollars to spend and was spending their money on clothes etc…where were their parents? They made a choice to ignore what their daughters were doing when they got to where they were going.

  5. A member of the Mara Lago resort reported to Trump that Epstein had approached and propositioned his 14 y/o daughter. When Trump learned of this, Epstein was ordered off the property and banned from the premises for life.
    THEY WERE NOT BEST FRIENDS…. Clinton flew 24 times on the Lolita Express..(Epstein's Jet)

  6. See. Cosby in jail on the word of over age lying, money grubbing, and even some man-looking, wenches. Racism trumps mone putting these two cases on the parallel.

  7. Morning Joe throwing Donald Trump in there is a low blow but then again blowing is something he's good at. Trump banned him from Mar a Lago but Joe doesn't report that.

  8. It's possible…
    1. given Trump's proximity to child traffickers (his former campaign chairman and Epstein),
    2. The lewd public comments made about his daughter, The View
    3. and his willingness to use his powerful position to molest women, Access Hollywood…
    It is possible that a powerful man like Trump could use his position to create a helpless population of young people …. Like at the boarder.
    Are we sure Trump is not having those children sold?
    It seems not only possible but likely given Trump's proximity to all the components.

  9. On Why the New York Press Avoids Reporting on Jeffrey Epstein

  10. These political power puppets need to be taken down and rid our society of these sexual perverted idiots.

  11. Why does Trump think he can hold Iran to that agreement when Trump pulled out of it himself declaring it nullified and void? Why is MSNBC not asking about this?

  12. Somebody tipped off the New York prosecutor's office what they will find in Epstein's Manhattan apartment. They don't have the resources just try and poke into a guy like this after a done plea deal years ago.

  13. HOW does it feel to know you will be one of the big ones going down ? Trump is who is draining the swamp is part of the prosecution and you know it! Don't forget murder has no statute of limitations. Be careful whom you say false things about. It could bite you in the behind!

  14. MSNBC you should be ashamed of yourselves. Lies, lies, and more lies. When will you stop! Trump kicked Epstien out if his Florida club and banned him for life. He has NEVER been on his plane and you are reporting false news!

  15. This must have been recorded before Acosta explained his role which casts a totally different light than that cast by the media in their typical efforts to fabricate a link to Trump. Epstein did not "dodge" jail time because of Acosta, rather there would have been no jail time at all but for him.

  16. That statement said: “In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation. Staff, supporters of the foundation, and his Secret Service detail traveled on every leg of every trip. He had one meeting with Epstein in his Harlem office in 2002, and around the same time made one brief visit to Epstein’s New York apartment with a staff member and his security detail. He’s not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade, and he has never been to Little St. James Island, Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico, or his residence in Florida.”

    Can someone please tell me what Epstein, Clinton, and the Clinton foundation have in common? Anyone MSNBC I'll wait and wait and wait and wait. Just so you know I find this highly predictable!!

  17. Well we are witnessing the fact that these ultra rich people just BUY AWAY THEIR CRIMES!! SICK BASTERDS! Little children's minds have been stolen from them by these perverts!!! This man should be locked away for the rest of his life!! That way he can get all the sexual perversion he can handle from his fellow inmates!!!

  18. Wow this pervert actually had his own little private pervert island!? So he thought that he could take these children and abuse them thinking that no one would find out! His own island of perversity! Sick! Real sick!!

  19. The corporate employed mouthpieces now squawking so loudly about this have been pitifully late to the game while the independent journalists they routinely vilify have been on top of this story from the beginning.

  20. Ray Chandler will be another name Bill Clinton was on the Island many Hollywood people were there this is just the tip of the iceberg. They sacrificed babies and young people on that Island they are satan worshipers. We know many things the MSM is not talking about. We are the News Q. Bye Bye Deep State

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