In Primaries, Democratic Progressives Take On Party Elites (2/2)


It’s the Real News. I’m Aaron Mate, continuing with Nina Turner,
former Ohio state senator and president of Our Revolution. And we’re talking about the first big primary
day of 2018, and how it fares for Democrats in this contentious primary season. Sen. Turner, I wanted to read you a headline
from the New York Times today talking about a new group of Democratic donors, and it’s
called “Big Donors Form New Alliance to Seize House from Republicans.” And it’s talking about a group of wealthy
Democrats in New York launching something called the House Victory Fund, where for entry
donors can pay $108000 to go to a new fund that will support a group of House Democratic
candidates that have already been selected. And some of the donors include Robert Rubin,
he’s the former Treasury secretary under Bill Clinton; Roger Altman, the former deputy
Treasury secretary of the Clinton administration; and two investment bankers who are major Democratic
fundraisers, Deven Parekh and Blair Effron. But the, this group has already selected candidates,
Democratic candidates, who they favor in November. The problem, looking at this article, is that
some of these candidates haven’t even won their primaries yet. And before the break we were talking about
how, you were saying that this race should not be bought. I’m just wondering your reaction to this
news of another group of powerhouse Democrats already throwing their money into the ring
before even some primaries have been held. And again, this is part of the problem. I won’t say it’s all of the problem. People certainly have a right in this country,
whether they’re wealthy or not, ultra-wealthy or not, to be able to weigh in. But what we don’t want, and what the Supreme
Court has laid out in two cases, one in particular, Citizens United, that, you know, money is
speech. And we have to turn that around or we’re
going to continue to get things like this where the ultra-wealthy can get together and
pile up money and decide who should, you know, who are the people who will represent us. And that’s not the way it should be in a
representative democracy. Everybody should have a voice. They should have equal voice, whether they
have millions of dollars or whether they only have a few thousand dollars, to be able to
participate in the process. And that’s why campaign finance reform is
so vitally necessary. Now, if these donors are getting together
to say, you know, let, let, let the process play out, and then, you know, we’re going
to support, you know, candidates on the back end of the primary process. And that’s one thing. But to be able to amass this kind of money
and decide who the candidates are going to be even going into the primary with that kind
of money, you know, it’s the outweight, it’s not just money in general but it’s
the outsized impact that money has on, on races across this country from both parties. And so again, the American people, we’re
going to have to step up and say that enough is enough, and that we will not tolerate this
anymore. You know, people power is greater than any
money power, but the people have to rise up. And some people are just really discouraged
and frustrated, Aaron, because of, because of, because of articles like that. Because of revelations like that. Because of what you just let the viewers know
was going on. In terms of them the mood of voters right
now and their enthusiasm level, what did you see yesterday in terms of turnout in Ohio? It was abysmal. And somebody that is a pro-voter rights, you
know, leader in this country, it just breaks my heart that in Ohio, for example, we’re
just one example of many, but we have about 8 million eligible voters in the great state
of Ohio. Only about a little over 600000 of those voters
even showed up to vote in the primary. That’s about 20 percent. So that is no way, again, to, to have a robustness
in our democracy if people are just, really just opting out of voting. And so we should care about that as much as
we care about any candidate or set of candidates winning, is the fact that the American people
in many ways are just opting out of even participating in the democracy. And Aaron, you know, as well as I do and others
do, of even just, even the turnout in 2016 was low for a presidential election. If that is the trajectory, then we are in
trouble as a representative democracy. We got to, we have to push through this. We’ve got to figure out why people are opting
out of voting and do something that gets them reengaged. And I’m making that statement separate and
apart from any support for any particular candidate. You know, there was one positive cited and
by voting rights advocates yesterday in Ohio, actually, where voters passed a measure that
would put an end to gerrymandering in the state, establishing a new state process that
could redraw the maps. Do you see that as a hopeful development? I do. And you know, I was in the legislature when
we really started this, and I am just absolutely elated. You know, I got to give big ups to the League
of Women Voters, who were very much in the mix on this, and they always are across our
country when it comes to these types of good government policies. But just really excited to see that this,
the people, the voters of Ohio who did vote yesterday really have given us a shot in the
arm, a positive shot in the arm towards trying to make the process of drawing lines fairer
in the extent that politicians should not be allowed to select their constituents, the
constituents should select or elect the politician. So yeah, this is a very good step forward
in Ohio. All right, Sen. Turner, so as we wrap, your
thoughts on the upcoming votes, and your, the approach you’re taking going into this,
the flurry of primaries that are about to pick up across the country heading into the
midterms. In less than two weeks we have, you mentioned
in the first segment, Laura Moser, the Democratic House hopeful in Texas who has been vocally
opposed by the Democratic Party leadership. They released opposition research on her. Your thoughts on that race, and other areas
where progressives are fighting the party leadership to stay alive? Now, I’m so glad you asked about that, Aaron. Yes, we have more primaries to go. I mean, May 15 is the next set, you know,
and then we have May 15, we’re going to have also states like Pennsylvania and Oregon. I just don’t want the voters to to give
up. People should not be discouraged. I know it’s easy to get discouraged. But even, I don’t want to say people shouldn’t
be discouraged, but even in their discouragement I want them to know that the power still ultimately
in their hands, and we should have these conversations with our neighbors, with our family members,
with our co-workers about the kind of America that we want to live in. And that starts with the school board all
the way up to the presidency, that ultimately we have the power to turn the tide, and that
people power wins every single day. And that if you are on the progressive progressive
side, that our ideas really are transforming this country. And we must continue to push, we must continue
to fight, we must continue to use our life force to lift. But that, one part of that, though, is making
sure that we do participate in the primaries. We cannot sit out in a representative democracy. We all matter. And we have to be engaged and involved, even
through our discouragement. If we are discouraged, we still have to be
involved. And I think Laura Moser is going to do a good
job, Aaron. I’m sorry. I really do. Laura has picked up a lot of steam, because
you did ask me that directly, and although she has had to continuously fight the establishment
I really do believe that she is going to be victorious. And I just salute her courage under fire,
especially when that kind of fire comes at the hands of your own party. We know what to expect in the general, but
you certainly do not expect that kind of heavy-handedness and dirtiness to happen in a primary at the
hands of your, of your own party. It’s unfortunate, but more and more of that
has happened all across the country, Aaron. But we will continue to push. And we’ll keep covering it here on the Real
News. Nina Turner, former Ohio state senator, and
president of Our Revolution. Thank you. Thank you, Aaron. And thank you for joining us on the Real News.

Author Since: Mar 11, 2019

  1. Preach it Nana! This is an uphill battle but we can do it! Hold those people in power accountable and don’t hold back in legitimate criticism!

  2. @3:41 No disrespect, but your numbers are way off. 600,000 out of 8,000,000 is not 20%. 20% of 8,000,000 is 1.6 million. Voter turnout in Ohio ,if your numbers are accurate, is roughly 7.5% which is abysmal. I appreciate Ms. Turner's great work. Congratulations on the Gerrymandering reform. Thank you and take care.

  3. We on the left have seen again and again that the Democrats don't want to win. Just listen to Tom Perez drone on and on with his sweaty, weaselly little face, obfuscating and never able to answer a question. And that insane middle finger FU lawsuit/publicity stunt he just pulled. It's pretty obvious that the bi-partisan donors, especially the Israel lobby (typically a big Democratic funder) but all the others too, war and arms industry, Wall St., etc., are loving what Trump is doing. He's.making them rich beyond their wildest dreams so now the donors are paying off Perez, Pelosi, Schumer, the DNC, et al, to TAKE A FALL, to become unelectable and by god, they are doing a bang up job of it! Tom Perez HRC, Obama, Feinstein, the warmongering DINOs, and the DNC, have successfully made anyone running as a "Democrat" unelectable. Note – Tim Canova has switched from Dem to Independent and his odds of winning are suddenly way up!

  4. It’s money. One can try and spin it how they want. This is why there is no democracy there is no questioning why people are disgruntled and participating in this bullshit electoral process.

  5. Nina – Why people are opting out of voting? Excuse me but why should voters show up to vote at all after DNC lawyers publicly stated last year that the party elite can choose any candidate they want regardless of who voters want in the primaries? I mean, why should voters bother? It won't change the result. Establishment lawyers have reassured us of that!

    Finally, Nina says you don't expect your own party to be so heavy-handed in a primary. What? Huh?! I had to rewind. Does Nina not remember the 2016 primary season? Does she not remember how the Democratic superdelegates stole President Bernie Sanders from us and gave us Trump?!

  6. How many progressive candidates need to lose in Democratic Party primaries, before Nina re-evaluates her party affiliation?

    The only way you'll see a Tulsi Gabbard/Nina Turner ticket in 2020 is on the Green Party ballot line.

  7. The only solution is to initiate state funding of all political activities INCLUDING salaries for the activists and LEGALLY mandate elected representatives to implement their promises: www.mosdem.org

  8. The Democratic Party Establishment are Striving to be a more Politically Correct form of Republican rather than being Alternatives to Republicans.

  9. People are opting out of voting because they know nothing they say or do makes any difference to our government! Wake up Nina, you know this! If you just stop and think for a minute you know this. People aren't voting cuz they know it doesn't matter who they vote in they're going to do what the cabal wants them to do not what the people want them to do. And by the way I really like you but you need to understand the Democratic party is dead! Please run on an independent ticket.

  10. I'm in the Green Party too but I would have switched to Dem Party temporarily if necessary, just to vote for Kucinich who SHOULD be in the GP or run Indy. He is WAY too good for the dumpster fire undemocratic party!

  11. I love Nina Turner, but the math on 8 million voters sending 600,000+ to the polls isn't 20% turn out, it's 8% turn out. Oh, way to go,Ohio.

  12. Nina, let's be honest here….we know that the Dems are unfixable thieves & thugs and we also know  that if people like you & Bernie Sanders & Tim Canova, & Tulsi Gabbard & Dennis Kucinich were serious about changing anything & not just spinning your wheels & 'talkin' smack', you could all move immediately into the Green Party & blow the doors off the next election for a Progressive agenda!Anything else is a FARCE!!!!

  13. people are opting out because they have no candidates that are exciting them–no message they believe after the decades of betrayal, and a view that anyone in politics is corrupt and/or corruptible–time to organize the base

  14. If the candidate is not a crowd-funded, real progressive, I'm not voting for them but I always vote. I mostly vote Green in the general elections, these days. The Democratic party either needs to change or die.

  15. When these progressive Democrats lose primaries, they should then just run Independent, Green or DSA….whatever.
    Dump the Democratic Party….and they will probably fare better.

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