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we begin this morning with the growing calls for president Trump's labor secretary Alexander Acosta to step down one day after the legal controversies surrounding billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein erupted here in New York City Epstein appeared in a courtroom Monday pleading not guilty to charges he sex trafficked girls as young as 14 from 2002 to 2005 and he paid them hundreds of dollars in cash for you guessed it sex but here's where secretary Acosta comes into the picture back in 2008 Acosta was the US attorney in Miami who oversaw a non-prosecution deal that allowed Epstein to plead guilty to a lesser state charge in Florida that deal was widely criticized too lenient because Epstein served only 13 months in a County Jail and he was able to leave that jail six days a week on a work release program to his private office Acosta has defended the plea deal as appropriate under the circumstances including this past April before the House Appropriations Subcommittee as I was saying the Department of Justice for the past 12 years has defended the actions of the office in this case the end of the day mr. Epstein went to jail Epstein was incarcerated he registered as a sex offender the world was put on notice that he was a sex offender and the victims received restitution 13 months in county jail 12 hours a day work release you consider that justice for the conversation of these girls over night House Speaker Nancy Pelosi demanded Acosta stepped down in the following tweet as US Attorney he engaged in an unconscionable agreement with Jeffrey Epstein kept secret from courageous young victims preventing them from seeking justice this was known by President Trump when he appointed him to the cabinet hashtag Acosta resign and this morning a new op-ed by the Miami Herald is also calling on Acosta to resign that is the very same paper that brought to light the 2008 non-prosecution agreement through series of reports last year joining us now MSNBC contributor and moveon.org chief public affairs officer Kareem jean-pierre NBC News investigations correspondent Tom winter MSNBC contributor and executive editor of Bloomberg opinion Tim O'Brien and former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney our legal mine this morning Robert Bianchi Tomas you were at the courthouse yesterday so we must turn to you first get us up to speed on Epstein's legal battle okay so where it stands right now is he's in he's in detention he's at MCC which is a criminal complex or a holding complex downtown it's by the courts so he's gonna be there and he's gonna be there till at least Monday and that's because because of the bail Reform Act as soon his as soon as his defense attorneys say hey we want to propose a bail package for him whether or not the judge wants to grant it whether or not the judge thinks it's appropriate his defense is allowed to at least present that so they're gonna have a hearing on Monday there's gonna be a flurry of responses towards the end of this week we'll see them we'll hear about them we'll report about them and basically at that point then on Monday we assume that the judge that's going to be overseeing this case judge Berman he'll be the one that will decide whether or not Jeffrey Epstein can come out on bail or whether or not he's going to be detained pending trial in this case the the factors against Epstein are so strong that he's a convicted felon that he's somebody who is a registered sex offender and that they did find those images during that search warrant on Saturday night at his house on the Upper East Side chances of him getting out I mean it's stunning the guy went to jail for it registered sex offender right and four days ago no biggie he's got a catalog of nude photos of women under the age of 18 how does that even happen yeah a quote extraordinary amount of photos either young girls or young women that were found semi nude or nude some were found on CDs that were locked in in a safe that he had so I think when you look at it what judge looks at that that doesn't look like a rehabilitative behavior and that's what prosecutors said that looks like behavior that is just continuing to go forward for him so I think that that's from a legal standpoint that's that's the next thing for Epstein and then I would expect immediately after that a motion to dismiss a motion to throughout the case by Epstein's defense attorney they signaled that in court yesterday saying hey we signed this non-prosecution agreement and and that should that should absolve us from any future charges prosecutors here in New York are gonna take a strong stance against it saying hey look the document that you signed only said for the Southern District of Florida and we're not the Southern District of Florida so it's it's a it's a moot point so I think those are going to be the two Knicks from a legal standpoint those are the next two big challenges are the two next markers in this case if you will that certainly does not sound like a rehabilitated man Kareem let's talk about the growing calls for labor secretary Acosta's resignation he is the one responsible for the non-prosecution agreement prosecutors in Florida had a 53 page indictment ready to roll he stepped in he big-footed them he met privately with Epstein's Kirkland and Ellis attorneys and the next thing you know he's charged with a much lesser offense and he's in jail for 13 months Nancy Pelosi says time to go Acosta what's he have to say yeah I think in any other administration Acosta would not have a job right now his involvement with that deal the non-prosecution deal is just abhorrent the fact that he only got 13 months this is Epstein only got 13 months 12 hours you know a work-release it's just completely insane those victim those young girls did not get any justice and thank goodness that the SDN y is taking this up again they're taking this very seriously and what Epstein is accused of is horrific and not just that but whoever any of the enablers whoever in whatever level they knew about this need to be held accountable it doesn't matter what party affiliation you have how powerful you are how well-connected you are you need to be held accountable as well as Epstein Tim and your latest piece entitled Epstein's arrest is a worry for Donald Trump what do you mean by that well I think that I think you know there are two sort of skeletons in the epstein closet that that still need to be explored further the first is one of the kind of information or tapes does he have on this large network of politicians businesspeople which goes far beyond the president again it goes to people on both sides of the political aisle it go to influentials in Palm Beach in New York you know we don't know what's there the second thing is how did AB Steen manage his money and where did the money come from you know we only know that he had one major investor early when he opened up his last Wexner other than that there's a mystery around how he was funded and he was funded for a long time he was funded in a way that allowed him to support a lifestyle that included about a hundred million dollars in real estate he needed substantial income just to afford that lifestyle so he clearly had money coming in it wasn't just a Potemkin village but now where does he get it from he has to have had millions of dollars in legal fees it's unclear what he does for a living now and he's a registered sex offender how does he afford this lifestyle yesterday the prosecutor said he's a man of unlimited means well and then so that I think raises that that that to me is gonna be one of the key things investigators gonna have to sort out here is the extent to which Epstein was able to use blackmail or other information to compel people to fund him or play ball with him who otherwise might not have and I think if that door gets opened up you're gonna get this very seedy look at how power functions in New York and in Palm Beach we should note that while the President did have a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein he had been on his airplane multiple times according to court documents that were filed by a lawyer representing three of Epstein's victims President Trump then banned his former friend from our Lago because he sexually assaulted an underage girl at the club wait a sec though that's been put out over the last day on this two things that lawyer who represented the women who had been attacked by Jeff Epstein he actually agreed to trump with Trump not to put him under a deposition he had subpoenaed him for a deposition they then reached a gentlemen's agreement in which Trump went in for a private interview it was off the record but he did say he was very cool said it was cooperative but we never know actually what information was shared as part of that I'm not saying that we call it a gentlemen's agreement when we're talking about dudes and young girls and I think this is the thing that so infuriated the assistant director of the FBI yesterday bill Sweeney I mean he was he was about as Stern as I have ever seen him at a press conference he runs the New York field office of the FBI and you know he really was upset with this idea of we don't ever talk about these things that there are adults that are fully aware of the fact that these acts are occurring and nobody ever comes out in and says anything and people don't step forward and say this is wrong and we need to do something about it I mean it was a it was a little bit of a lecture and morality from the assistant director but this is a guy that sees this type of behavior all the time obviously knows the case file here and knows things that we don't know yet with respect to Epstein and was somebody who's really disgusted about what we saw yesterday I mean a gentleman's agreement over what we're talking about somebody who's who's allegedly evolved and has already pleaded guilty to in the past his involvement with underage girls this is read it's just like kind of gross well there you shared this outrage you say this is just the tip of the iceberg yeah at this entire I think that they should be looking into a cost about this particular deal I used to prepare these deals and these deals were created Miami Herald did a great job through the defense lawyers they were dictating the terms of the deal so walk us through this so people truly understand when you say you used to prepare these deals as a defense attorney as a prosecutor as a prosecutor so you would prepare these in what circumstance would you ever go to the defense team and have them dictate to you here's what you're gonna do about absolutely not Stephanie the first thing that got me about this case well before it became this indictment came down was that you're meeting with a defense attorney in the Marriott and you're discussing this case after the FBI is going internationally not just in the United States getting up to 80 victims and more victims on the plate they had a 53 page indictment prepared that they may go forward with and then all the sudden there's a meeting in the Marriott and it's going into a non-prosecution agreement I handle these cases as a prosecutor and defense allure I have one more person does a singular act of taking a minor over state lines and there were offers are in the area of seven years in federal prison plus state time and that's just for a single person out of conspiracy to sex traffic women from across the world so prosecutor and defense lawyer looking at this there can't be a singular one I challenge anyone to come forward and say that this is non-prosecution agreement which was repaired by the defense essentially which hid from the victims everything that was going on he had from the judge essentially what was going on is anywhere near what a typical non-prosecution agreement is we extend it to the co-conspirator this is what I need someone to explain to me why why would you extend immunity to the co-conspirators if I'm Alexander Acosta and I'm cutting a deal what am I getting out of Epstein that makes me want to hook up the co-conspirators except for the fact that the people who he traveled with were among some of the most powerful people in the world right so this is not prosecution agreement says the four accomplices they're immune they're covered and why why would he help me understand why one would agree that something like Walker I don't see a cooperation agreement in there that that's the thing that doesn't make sense there's no indication that Epstein ever provided any additional information to any other case of any sort of significance and I know there was cells laughing about the Bear Stearns Asset Management in a couple of those funds that blew up in the in during the CDO crisis but you know what that never held water and he never testified in that trial he was involved in those so that he never put it in a non-prosecution but there's one other permutation that he can kind of miss and any other unidentified co-conspirator any other why why would you offer something you know what you don't do it just you know from looking at this as a lawyer that this was dictated by the defense to hide it from the media to protect everyone associated with this he gave nothing you give non prosecution agreements for minor low-level offense it's not something like this especially when the FBI look at this the the police that were investigating it the FBI everyone was outraged by this and yet very few people said you know why they do this this happens when people are thinking about running for political office later in their lives and are thinking about lining up money and lining up influence and when they're in a role as a prosecutor or in any kind of public service role they're trading off a present favor for a future debt okay then to that point Kareem I want to share what Michelle Goldberg wrote in her op-ed for the New York Times calling this plutocratic rot she writes powerful elites enabled the financier accused of trafficking underage girls she was the following examples Alexander Acosta oversaw the non-prosecution agreement in 2008 and she adds the Manhattan district attorney's office under Democrats i Vance asked a judge to downgrade Epstein's sex offender status from a level 3 which is the most serious to a level 1 the least what do you make of that you know what it what rings at me when I hear that and I look at this case as a whole or the situation as a whole is how broken the justice system is and how just the inequalities of this I mean you hear you have a very wealthy man millionaire billionaire however you want to argue that who is well-connected to both you know Democrats and Republicans we have to be really honest here who is you know like I said well-connected rich wealthy and who gets essentially a sweetheart deal he gets a slap on the wrist in Florida for what for what he did there and if it was anybody else anybody else any of us regular people we would not have gotten away with this in particular people of color and poor people and that's what screams at me when I read this besides the fact that these young girls did not get you know they did not get justice vulnerable girls just briefly you know as important is and I've read the non-prosecution agreement we have a copy of it as important as the all the other factors around it are to me there are eight specific violations of US criminal code that are named there some of them are very similar to the charges that were brought by the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York yesterday it says that the FBI and the US Attorney's Office found these violations you have eight specific violations and for some reason that went away that carrier and I think the life sentence by the way essentially a life sentence exactly right and I think life sentence he got 13 months and Jeffrey Epstein went on to joke about it prison in a very lenient term who's allowed to leave for work release during the day I mean it wasn't even right that he was allowed to you know just be there for 13 months in a regular jail facility looking over this day I have the State Police I have the state attorney file which includes the Palm Beach Police Department investigation and reading over that and reading over the statements that they were able to get from the victims it's just I don't want that to ever get lost in our in as we talked about this because obviously there's a lot to talk about here when I look at that the things that they say the things that these girls had to deal with because they're all under the age of 18 Epstein ordering them to take off the clothes they talked about his imposing physical presence he's six feet tall 180 pounds according to his florida law enforcement records didn't have very much money they they did not have very much money and they came to call them prostitutes a fourteen-year-old that he pled guilty with a prostitute a girl that can't even consent under the law who's being abused they had the temerity to allow them to go in and say that by the way Stephanie to your point with the judge on side Vance the judge looked at that and said I have never seen a prosecutor coming to court to lower the registration requirement for a sex offender with a case like this that the judge was outraged she sought as well it's disgusting well Simon that you're watching you were welcome to join me on TV I would love to understand why you would want it to go from a level 3 to a level 1 hey there I'm Chris Hayes from MSNBC thanks for watching MSNBC on YouTube if you want to keep up to date with the videos we're putting out you can click Subscribe just below me or click over on this list to see lots of other great videos

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  1. Donald Trump has done far worst that Acosta, Donald Trump has actually been accused by many women of sexual assault, Donald Trump admitted he sexually assaults women in an audio recording. Donald Trump has done so much damage dividing this country and abuse of power, imprisoning children in cages / crimes against humanity, private off the record meetings with Vladmir Putin, and denying Russia attacked our democracy, AND then encouraging help from our adversaries, the list goes on and on and nobody is asking Donald Trump to step down! ~ THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY FAVORITISM WHEN IT COMES TO OUR TAX DOLLARS ~ DONALD TRUMP MUST GO, AS WELL AS WILLIAM BARR AND ALEX ACOSTA! CLEAN OUR GOVERNMENT NOW!

  2. We have to understand that any proof of criminal behavior by this administration will be perceived as an attack against conservative republicans. They don't care if a crime is committed. They don't if teenagers are abused. They think they're protecting their interests.

  3. Thank God Trump got Epstein indicted and arrested. More pedos to come. Trump promised he’d drain the swamp and there we go! One more promise kept! God bless President Trump ! Best President in history!

  4. MSNBC is a corrupted corporate operated media outfit, why should we listen to them ? Vote for Bernie in 2020 and let's clean all this corruption surrounding our politic

  5. Face it. The reason why all these influential and powerful people are droping the ball on epstein is because its a huge trafficking ring. They gonna supress the truth from the public still because of who this is threathening to bring down. Some he paid off, some because he was a rich Jewish boy. Be real about it.

  6. Cosby was black and he made jail for grown women, and he had millions and he was supposedly well connected. Racism!

  7. Acosta is scum. Even worse than the plea deal was the phony "imprisonment." Epstein got to leave jail 16 hours a day to snort coke, screw children, and blackmail, then only had to go back to sleep in his country club prison bed for 8 hours. Probably got served a fine, catered breakfast, too. Our "justice" system STINKS. Some poor schnook is doing years of hard time for smoking grass, and Assange has been imprisoned for years just for telling the Truth about the rotten, corrupt US govt.

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